Your point about people coming from poorer countries is most certainly valid. In 1991 or 92, NYC saw a resurgence in TB, largely traced to poorer migrants from across the world concentrating there.
Why is your argument any different from what I was posting, however? Unvaccinated people ANY AND EVERYWHERE confront diseases—period. The point of vaccination is to mitigate the problem. If we are not getting shots, then We are suspectible. If we have had the shots, by and large we are not, if I understand any of this. The overall point is to get the shots—period.
You are among many who doubt the COVID shot; I am not. You may have embraced alternate remedies; I did not. But that is why I write this every day so we can discuss it. Thank you AGAIN for reading cared and responding. I was think ing just last night that I had not heard anything from you in ages. Be well, Cliff.
I am dubious about the COVID Vax, probably because I am dubious about Dr Fauci.
I wrote about those migrants because the Federal Government seems to have no plan to make things better. No plan to fix the public health issues. No plan to make things equitable for the legal immigrants. Fairness.
Thanks so! I have yet to get a Covid vax that did not throw me but I am keenly aware of the folks, generally aging we are, so precariously threatened by the virus. My minor discomfort worth it!!
When I think of folk without shots, I don't worry about the Anti-Vaxers. I worry about the millions of illegal immigrants, pouring across our borders without proof of shots or anything else. I mentioned today to the Nurse at the Physician's Office, Sophia, from Visayas, that my image of immigrants is a long line of people, clutching chest X-Rays, outside the US Embassy in Manila. She Rogered that. Someone I know, a lady from Canada, on US Social Security from her time living here in the US (her two daughters are eligible to be a US President, and that is just the risk they hav etc take), just dropped $300 for a chest X-Ray to renew her Green Card. The overall cost of her efforts is several thousand dollars. The disrespect to those doing it the right way by those coming here without shots and tests is large, in my mind.
Yes, I have my Flu, RSV and COVID shots and got my Shingles shots. But, I am dubious about the COVID Vax operation.
This post brought back some memories... As a young kid in Thailand in late 60s, I was bitten by a dog. They couldn't immediately locate the dog to confirm it didn't have rabies so they started the series of 7 shots which were extremely painful. They got to about shot #2 when they found the dog and determined it was rabies free... but the damage was done. I winced throughout public school and dreaded "shot day"... especially when they came out with the Swine Flue vaccine which was my introduction to the "shot gun" vs. just a needle. It was even more traumatic. But...I got them all since my Mom (like you) insisted! :-) Flash forward to 30+ years of military service where there was no "choice." I got everything and then some. Flu shot every year whether I liked it or not (like you, I never was a believer in it doing anything for me). On a deployment to the Middle East, I had to get the Anthrax series... NO fun!! And then of course, COVID initial and booster injections. I thought I was past all that when I retired... but recently, I elected to get the Shingles vaccine (2-shot series). That one got my attention! First 24 hours after each shot was the worst. I felt like I'd been run over by a truck... slept for 5 or 6 hours (during the day mind you)... and my arm was sore for about 10 days. But... I've known a few folks who had Shingles and from what they went through.... I'd opt for the shot any day! I've never been a non-vaxer... maybe putting too much trust in the Gov't getting it right. But never had much of a choice before. However... I didn't get the flu shot this year... first time in 30 years and I felt just fine. In fact... in some small way, it was completely liberating!
wanting to be free to get sick, there is an issue with the dismantling of local public health services. I remember standing in line in Colombia with my mom and sister waiting for shots. My sister, a tiny toddler ran off between everyone’s legs and had to be chased down. Those shots save lives and misery. Enjoy the aloha.❤️
Cliff,
Your point about people coming from poorer countries is most certainly valid. In 1991 or 92, NYC saw a resurgence in TB, largely traced to poorer migrants from across the world concentrating there.
Why is your argument any different from what I was posting, however? Unvaccinated people ANY AND EVERYWHERE confront diseases—period. The point of vaccination is to mitigate the problem. If we are not getting shots, then We are suspectible. If we have had the shots, by and large we are not, if I understand any of this. The overall point is to get the shots—period.
You are among many who doubt the COVID shot; I am not. You may have embraced alternate remedies; I did not. But that is why I write this every day so we can discuss it. Thank you AGAIN for reading cared and responding. I was think ing just last night that I had not heard anything from you in ages. Be well, Cliff.
I am dubious about the COVID Vax, probably because I am dubious about Dr Fauci.
I wrote about those migrants because the Federal Government seems to have no plan to make things better. No plan to fix the public health issues. No plan to make things equitable for the legal immigrants. Fairness.
Thanks for posting.
Cliff
Thanks so! I have yet to get a Covid vax that did not throw me but I am keenly aware of the folks, generally aging we are, so precariously threatened by the virus. My minor discomfort worth it!!
When I think of folk without shots, I don't worry about the Anti-Vaxers. I worry about the millions of illegal immigrants, pouring across our borders without proof of shots or anything else. I mentioned today to the Nurse at the Physician's Office, Sophia, from Visayas, that my image of immigrants is a long line of people, clutching chest X-Rays, outside the US Embassy in Manila. She Rogered that. Someone I know, a lady from Canada, on US Social Security from her time living here in the US (her two daughters are eligible to be a US President, and that is just the risk they hav etc take), just dropped $300 for a chest X-Ray to renew her Green Card. The overall cost of her efforts is several thousand dollars. The disrespect to those doing it the right way by those coming here without shots and tests is large, in my mind.
Yes, I have my Flu, RSV and COVID shots and got my Shingles shots. But, I am dubious about the COVID Vax operation.
Cheers -- Cliff
This post brought back some memories... As a young kid in Thailand in late 60s, I was bitten by a dog. They couldn't immediately locate the dog to confirm it didn't have rabies so they started the series of 7 shots which were extremely painful. They got to about shot #2 when they found the dog and determined it was rabies free... but the damage was done. I winced throughout public school and dreaded "shot day"... especially when they came out with the Swine Flue vaccine which was my introduction to the "shot gun" vs. just a needle. It was even more traumatic. But...I got them all since my Mom (like you) insisted! :-) Flash forward to 30+ years of military service where there was no "choice." I got everything and then some. Flu shot every year whether I liked it or not (like you, I never was a believer in it doing anything for me). On a deployment to the Middle East, I had to get the Anthrax series... NO fun!! And then of course, COVID initial and booster injections. I thought I was past all that when I retired... but recently, I elected to get the Shingles vaccine (2-shot series). That one got my attention! First 24 hours after each shot was the worst. I felt like I'd been run over by a truck... slept for 5 or 6 hours (during the day mind you)... and my arm was sore for about 10 days. But... I've known a few folks who had Shingles and from what they went through.... I'd opt for the shot any day! I've never been a non-vaxer... maybe putting too much trust in the Gov't getting it right. But never had much of a choice before. However... I didn't get the flu shot this year... first time in 30 years and I felt just fine. In fact... in some small way, it was completely liberating!
Besides the societal problem of people
wanting to be free to get sick, there is an issue with the dismantling of local public health services. I remember standing in line in Colombia with my mom and sister waiting for shots. My sister, a tiny toddler ran off between everyone’s legs and had to be chased down. Those shots save lives and misery. Enjoy the aloha.❤️